The Wise Guys continue their discussion on “The labels and identity that people tend to give spiritual groups.” This topic is seemingly important in that it is often forgotten that there is a “face” behind congregations or small fellowships. We forget the process of wrestling and searching for YHWH and that calling groups a cult to substantiate one’s fears is neither helpful or spiritual. To help in the discussion, the Wise Guys interview Pastors John and Sandra Craig from the Life of Worship congregation in Amarillo, Texas who have learned to grow in amazing ways. Listen in to their story on how they met each other, how they found Messiah, and how they moved their congregation to a vibrant Torah believing body.